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		<title>BrewDog&#039;s Zeitgeist vs. Herold Bohemian Black Lager</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Evan Rail</dc:creator>
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A while back I tried BrewDog&#8217;s prototype Zeitgeist beer, a dark lager &#8220;taking inspiration from the Czech classics.&#8221; That line gave me the idea of trying it against three classic Czech dark lagers, coffee-like black beers which generally finish on the sweet side.
But the Zeitgeist (or Zeit Geist, as it was back then) seemed to [...]]]></description>
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<p>A while back I tried BrewDog&#8217;s prototype Zeitgeist beer, a dark lager &#8220;taking inspiration from the Czech classics.&#8221; That line gave me the idea of trying it against <a href="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/2009/01/13/brewdog-zeit-geist-vs-czech-darks/">three classic Czech dark lagers</a>, coffee-like black beers which generally finish on the sweet side.</p>
<p>But the Zeitgeist (or Zeit Geist, as it was back then) seemed to be made of different material, so to speak: I liked it, but as I wrote then, &#8220;I don’t think it tasted very Czech&#8230; Zeit Geist was far more dry in the finish.&#8221; And I added that if I had known it was a dry dark beer, like a Schwarzbier, I would have tasted it with Herold Bohemian Black Lager, one of the only dry dark lagers the Czechs produce.</p>
<p>Later, I found out that Herold was in fact the very inspiration for Zeitgeist. And then came the word that Zeitgeist was going into full production and wide release in Britain. So once I got a copy of the production brew, I decided to compare that to the originals, both prototype and paragon.</p>
<p><span id="more-456"></span>The Scottish and Czech beers are more different than you might imagine: Herold has 5.3% alcohol, while Zeitgeist went from 5.1% in prototype to 4.9% in production. The Herold is half a shade darker with a sandy head; the production version of Zeitgeist has cream-colored foam.</p>
<p>As I wrote back then, the prototype Zeitgeist had a touch of smokiness in the nose and mouth. That&#8217;s still there, though BrewDog has assured me there&#8217;s not a grain of smoked malt anywhere near the thing. The astringence — the drying, slightly acidic notes in the finish — that I noted in the prototype are still very much present in the production version. There&#8217;s a touch of cooked fruit, and some nice bitter notes.</p>
<p>By contrast, my bottle of Herold Bohemian Black Lager has almost no smokiness and much more chocolate and dry cocoa flavors. It&#8217;s dry in the finish, but not quite as dry as Zeitgeist. (It&#8217;s also surpremely drinkable: dark beers are not generally thought of as summertime drinks, but Herold&#8217;s Bohemian Black Lager is light enough in the body to be quite refreshing on a very warm evening. As is Zeitgeist.)</p>
<p>So which do I prefer? Considering I live in Prague and I really believe in drinking locally, that&#8217;s a no-brainer: I&#8217;ll take the Czech bottle, thank you. But in terms of taste?</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t get Herold, you surely won&#8217;t regret having a Zeitgeist: it&#8217;s an excellent dark lager with loads of flavor and surprising complexity. If you can get them both, you have a choice: a bit more cocoa and chocolate with the Herold, or a bit more dryness and bitter fruit flavors with the Zeitgeist.</p>
<p>Marx would probably say that Zeitgeist (the beer) is influenced by the material — in this case, the malt, hops, yeast and water — with which it is produced, and that is why it tastes the way it does. But in this case I think I&#8217;m going to go with Hegel. Zeitgeist, at least the beer, is greater than the sum of its parts.</p>
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		<title>BrewDog’s Zeit Geist vs. Three Classic Czech Dark Lagers</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/01/13/brewdog-zeit-geist-vs-czech-darks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Evan Rail</dc:creator>
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Beer geeks everywhere are talking about the small Scottish brewery BrewDog, and for good reason: despite being just a couple of years old — meaning very young — they&#8217;re already putting out some head-turningly good beers, and backing them up with a masterful PR game.
One of their recent nice moves on the marketing pitch: offering [...]]]></description>
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<p>Beer geeks everywhere are talking about the small Scottish brewery BrewDog, and for good reason: despite being just a couple of years old — meaning very young — they&#8217;re already putting out some head-turningly good beers, and backing them up with <a href="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/2008/10/24/how-the-other-guys-do-it-brewdogs-punk-ipa/">a masterful PR game</a>.</p>
<p>One of their recent nice moves on the marketing pitch: offering <a href="http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article.php?id=32">a sampler of prototype beers</a> and asking drinkers to pick their favorites. Among the prototypes was Zeit Geist, &#8220;a 5.1% Black lager taking inspiration from the Czech classics.&#8221; As an imitation of a clasic Czech dark lager, it was just begging to be compared to three classics of the genre: Bernard&#8217;s speciální černé pivo, Bohemia Regent tmavý ležák and Budweiser Budvar tmavý ležák.</p>
<p>So how does the Scottish upstart compare to the old masters?</p>
<p><span id="more-362"></span>In terms of overall drinkability, I would say it wins. And in the case of Bohemia Regent and Budvar dark, Zeit Geist doesn&#8217;t just beat them — it pushes them in the gutter and takes their lunch money. Here&#8217;s how they stacked up.</p>
<p><strong>Bernard speciální černé pivo</strong>: This beer had the nicest, fluffiest and longest-lasting head, pouring a very deep amber, almost black with a pronounced nose of Dutch cocoa. It was sweeter than Budvar but less sweet than Bohemia Regent, and much sweeter than Zeit Geist (more on this later). In the mouth there were notes of cocoa and biscuity malt. A great beer.</p>
<p><strong>Bohemia Regent 12° tmavý ležák</strong>: This beer had the least long-lasting head and was lightest in color: deep amber, but far from black. There were cola notes in the nose and a gingery sweetness in the mouth. It was the sweetest of all four, with a clumsy, saccharine finish.</p>
<p><strong>Budweiser Budvar tmavý ležák</strong>: This beer had the second longest-lasting head, fluffy creamy color, second darkest color, but the nose had weird cooked-vegetable notes. It had a thin body, and, in comparison to Bernard and Zeit Geist, was not terribly charismatic. It turned out to be the least appealing of all four, making me think that this was perhaps a bad bottle.</p>
<p><strong>Brewdog Zeit Geist</strong>: Virtually identical in color to Bernard, though not as long-lasting in the foam department. The nose smells conspicuously like smoked malt, and there&#8217;s a pronounced Rauchbier taste in the mouth. Very nice, and reminiscent of their Rip Tide stout in the body with a strong astringence in the finish.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-364" src="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/zeit_geist.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="272" /></p>
<p>Bernard, as usual, was excellent; the Bohemia Regent and Budvar versions were disappointing. But here&#8217;s the thing: although I really liked Zeit Geist, I don&#8217;t think it tasted very Czech, certainly not like the other three beers, which easily stood together in a group: Zeit Geist was far more dry in the finish, far more of a German Schwarzbier than a Czech tmavý ležák. If I had known this, I would have compared it to Herold Bohemian Black Lager, one of the only dry dark lagers in the Czech lands.</p>
<p>In any case, it was interesting to see what Scottish brewers think a Czech dark lager should taste like. If I understand it correctly, Zeit Geist didn&#8217;t make the cut in the voting, so I&#8217;m not sure if we&#8217;ll ever see it produced: my prototype bottle, visible at the right of the picture at the top of the page, didn&#8217;t have a label or any means of identification beyond the cap. As it turns out, Brew Dog&#8217;s contest winner was a beer in the style of yet another country: Chaos Theory, an absolutely outstanding, extremely complex take on an hoppy, citrus-scented American IPA.</p>
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		<title>UPDATE: The Christmas Beer Markets 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Evan Rail</dc:creator>
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There&#8217;s more information about the Christmas Beer Markets taking place next weekend, December 20, 21 and 22, right here in Prague. Not only will some of the best Czech brewers bring their holiday and seasonal specials to the capital, but next weekend&#8217;s festival will also include a handful of great names in brewing from around [...]]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s more information about the <strong>Christmas Beer Markets</strong> taking place next weekend, December 20, 21 and 22, right here in Prague. Not only will some of the best Czech brewers bring their holiday and seasonal specials to the capital, but next weekend&#8217;s festival will also include a handful of great names in brewing from around Europe.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re at all interested in craft beer, you won&#8217;t want to miss a single one of the festival&#8217;s just-announced foreign brews.</p>
<p><span id="more-334"></span>From <a href="http://www.pivnidenik.cz/clanek/3679/VPT-08-zahranicni-piva.htm">the announcement at www.pivnidenik.cz</a>:</p>
<p>The Christmas Beer Markets take place next Saturday, Sunday and Monday, <strong>December 20–22, at Prague&#8217;s Mandarin Oriental Hotel</strong>.</p>
<p>Beyond domestic — meaning Czech — seasonal beers from craft producers, this year&#8217;s festival will include several notable foreign specialties.</p>
<p>Germany&#8217;s legendary wheat brewer <strong>Schneider Weisse</strong> will offer <a href="http://www.schneider-weisse.de/index.php?lang=de&amp;tpl=brauerei.spezialitaeten.aventinus">Aventinus Weizenstarkbier</a>, an outrageously good wheat Doppelbock, as well as the special <a href="http://ratebeer.com/beer/schneider-aventinus-weizen-eisbock/10514/">Aventinus Weizen-Eisbock</a> rocking 12% alcohol by volume.</p>
<p>Two as-yet-unnamed surprises will come from <strong>the Bamberg region</strong>.</p>
<p>From Denmark&#8217;s <a href="http://noerrebrobryghus.dk/">Nørrebro Bryghus</a>, attendees will be able to sample various beer styles including the brewery&#8217;s brown ale, IPA, stout, coffee stout, Imperial IPA and more.</p>
<p>From Scotland, beer from the <a href="http://www.inveralmond-brewery.co.uk/">Inveralmond Brewery</a>.</p>
<p>Also from Scotland, <strong>BrewDog</strong> — makers of <a href="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/2008/10/24/how-the-other-guys-do-it-brewdogs-punk-ipa/">the excellent Punk IPA</a> — will offer beers including the <a href="http://fuggled.blogspot.com/2008/12/peat-smoke-heaven.html">10%-alcohol Paradox</a>, a deep and mysterious Imperial Stout aged in whiskey casks from some of Scotland&#8217;s greatest distilleries.</p>
<p>As a kicker, the Christmas Beer Markets will also include <strong>a selection of beers from Belgium</strong>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a big step up in terms of variety from <a href="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/2008/12/01/christmas-beer-markets-2008/">last year&#8217;s Christmas Beer Markets</a>. The only thing that&#8217;s missing is the cult Norwegian brewery Nøgne Ø, whose <a href="http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/nogne-o-dark-horizon-second-edition/91228/">Dark Horizon Second Edition</a> (17.5% alcohol) the organizers planned to include, though the price and the expense of delivery proved to be a bridge too far.</p>
<p>Which just gives us something to look forward to next year.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Christmas Beer Markets</strong><br />
December 20, 21 and 22 (Saturday, Sunday and Monday)<br />
Inside the <strong>Mandarin Oriental Hotel</strong> (Nebovidská 1, Prague 1—Malá Strana)<br />
Tram: 12, 20 or 22 to Hellichova<br />
Two sessions daily: 1-5 p.m. and 6-10 p.m.<br />
Entry: 150 Kč including glass and one beer</p>
<p>For more information, see the previous <a href="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/2008/12/01/christmas-beer-markets-2008/">Beer Culture post on the Christmas Beer Markets</a>.</p>
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		<title>How the Other Guys Do It: BrewDog&#8217;s Punk IPA</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2008/10/24/how-the-other-guys-do-it-brewdogs-punk-ipa/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Evan Rail</dc:creator>
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If you want to figure out what&#8217;s happening — or not happening — with Czech beer, it might help to look at how some of the other guys do it. Take, for example, the Punk IPA from Scotland&#8217;s BrewDog.
But I don&#8217;t mean the beer itself. I just mean the packaging.
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<p>If you want to figure out what&#8217;s happening — or not happening — with Czech beer, it might help to look at how some of the other guys do it. Take, for example, the Punk IPA from Scotland&#8217;s BrewDog.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t mean the beer itself. I just mean the packaging.</p>
<p><span id="more-206"></span>In contrast to most Czech beer labels, the Punk IPA label goes almost all the way around the 330-ml bottle, and as such it has room for a lot of information. (Also in contrast to most Czech beer labels: it <em>contains </em>a lot of information.)</p>
<p>Some of this will sound familiar to those who remember the thoughts on Pivovar Kocour Varnsdorf post which disappeared down the server wormhole. Indeed, many aspects of the BrewDog packaging are similar to Kocour&#8217;s, such as the use of a logo — &#8220;a symbol or small design adopted by an organization to identify its products&#8221; — beyond the brewery&#8217;s name. In Kocour&#8217;s case, it&#8217;s a stylized K that looks like a tomcat.</p>
<p>Similarly, BrewDog has its howling dog.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-208" title="bddoglogo" src="http://www.praguemonitor.com/beer/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bddoglogo.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="184" /></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t recall any Czech craft brewer beyond Kocour that has a functioning logo. Avar, maybe? (By contrast, think of Heineken. A certain shade of green and a red star, right?)</p>
<p>Another point from the Kocour post was &#8220;never miss a chance to talk about your beer.&#8221; Even the Punk IPA&#8217;s crown cap makes use of available space — you&#8217;ve got the brand name and the logo on top, with phrase &#8220;Aberdeenshire&#8217;s Mega Microbrewery&#8221; written around the side.</p>
<p>Other parts of the label tell us the brewers, Martin Dickie and James Watt, as well as &#8220;the BrewDog Promise,&#8221; which includes putting &#8220;no preservatives, additives or other junk in your beer.&#8221; This is a lot of information, and it represents a concept that is completely absent in Czech beer marketing: start a conversation with your consumers. This label even suggests that such communication could possibly go both ways: &#8220;Let us know what you think of Punk IPA: punkipa@brewdog.com.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, there are two suggestions from the Kocour post that the Punk IPA packaging doesn&#8217;t follow. The first is to tell consumers more about the ingredients and how you used them. We don&#8217;t know what kind of hops were used in the Punk IPA (Fuggles? Kent Goldings? Styrian Goldings?) and we aren&#8217;t told what kind of malt (Maris Otter? Weyermann?). Nor do most Czech brewers do this, though they certainly should.</p>
<p>The second aspect from the Kocour post that is missing here: don’t bullshit us. In fact, the BrewDog label contains a massive shovelful of BS, though in this case the bull comes off as the kind of funny and harmless joshing between good friends: &#8220;It is quite doubtful that you have the taste or sophistication to appreciate the depth, character and quality of this premium craft brewed beer.&#8221; (Really? Try me, ace.)</p>
<p>The overall impression, though, is really positive: the design, like it or hate it, is not an afterthought, as it often seems with most Czech beer packaging. Much like the Kocour typeface, BrewDog&#8217;s stencil-like block caps suggests street smarts and punk rock, not a bad image for an upstart brewery, and perfectly in line with a beer BrewDog calls &#8220;aggressive&#8221; and &#8220;post modern.&#8221; If this beer were made by a Czech brewer, it would probably have a dead baroness on the label and a name written out in some kind of ridiculous Baroque script.</p>
<p>And for the beer itself: it&#8217;s really very good, quite hoppy, nicely bitter in the finish, though not nearly as aggressive as it claims. N&#8217;est pas gourmand qui veut, as the man said, and the same holds true for punks.</p>
<p>This post marks Beer Culture&#8217;s return to regular publishing after the wormhole incident and is part of a joint project with <a href="http://fuggled.blogspot.com/2008/10/brewing-up-storm-in-broch.html">Fuggled</a> and <a href="http://pivni-filosof.blogspot.com/2008/10/threesome.html">Pivní Filosof</a> on the same subject. Go read their posts now.</p>
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