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	<title>Comments on: Beer Hacking: Pardubicky Porter vs. Orval, Tasted &amp; Revisited</title>
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		<title>By: Birrophilia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pardubicky - Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Birrophilia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pardubicky - Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] C&#8217;è chi ha provato a creare una birra di proprio gusto tagliando questa Porter con la trappista Orval. Bah [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] C&#8217;è chi ha provato a creare una birra di proprio gusto tagliando questa Porter con la trappista Orval. Bah [...]</p>
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		<title>By: E.S. Delia</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>E.S. Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I feel late to the beerhacking party, it&#039;s an engaging experiment that I may get to one day when I&#039;m looking to make improvements to others&#039; beer. Right now I&#039;m having enough trouble with improving my own!

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I feel late to the beerhacking party, it&#8217;s an engaging experiment that I may get to one day when I&#8217;m looking to make improvements to others&#8217; beer. Right now I&#8217;m having enough trouble with improving my own!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting experiment, a few things to keep in mind if you hack in the future, you may want to use Plastic bottles because depending on the amount of residual sugars the bugs may create too much pressure for the glass to handle.

You are limited to either using only bugs (like the different strains of brett, or lacto) which you can get from orval and the lambics, if you pitch regular Trappist yeast it will pretty much flocculate out because all of the easily accessible sugars have already been consumed by the original yeast. However if you want to take it to another level you can add different fruit juices or ingredients and if the beer isn&#039;t filtered it will eat the new sugars (store it room temperature for a few days before refrigerating again to help rouse the yeast) or add a dose of dried or fresh yeast and you should get the same effect. I have also heard of people making sour beers using yoghurt bacteria cultures, you can always give that a go to sprinkle a bit of the culture in the bottle and see what happens.

Another interesting hack would be getting your hands on some hop pellets and dry hopping a few bottles with a couple of pellets. Eventually the hops will settle to the bottom leaving an intense bouquet behind.


Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting experiment, a few things to keep in mind if you hack in the future, you may want to use Plastic bottles because depending on the amount of residual sugars the bugs may create too much pressure for the glass to handle.</p>
<p>You are limited to either using only bugs (like the different strains of brett, or lacto) which you can get from orval and the lambics, if you pitch regular Trappist yeast it will pretty much flocculate out because all of the easily accessible sugars have already been consumed by the original yeast. However if you want to take it to another level you can add different fruit juices or ingredients and if the beer isn&#8217;t filtered it will eat the new sugars (store it room temperature for a few days before refrigerating again to help rouse the yeast) or add a dose of dried or fresh yeast and you should get the same effect. I have also heard of people making sour beers using yoghurt bacteria cultures, you can always give that a go to sprinkle a bit of the culture in the bottle and see what happens.</p>
<p>Another interesting hack would be getting your hands on some hop pellets and dry hopping a few bottles with a couple of pellets. Eventually the hops will settle to the bottom leaving an intense bouquet behind.</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Rail</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Rail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, homebrewing is much cooler. This is a slightly different idea: not making a beer, but making someone else&#039;s beer more like what you want to drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, homebrewing is much cooler. This is a slightly different idea: not making a beer, but making someone else&#8217;s beer more like what you want to drink.</p>
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		<title>By: E.S. Delia</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>E.S. Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to think, I thought homebrewing by myself was cutting edge. Damn, I need to keep up with the times! Glad to hear it turned out tasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think, I thought homebrewing by myself was cutting edge. Damn, I need to keep up with the times! Glad to hear it turned out tasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Marius Garshol</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Marius Garshol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put this one onto reddit as well, to follow up the earlier submission. :)

Anyway, interesting that it turned out so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put this one onto reddit as well, to follow up the earlier submission. :)</p>
<p>Anyway, interesting that it turned out so well.</p>
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		<title>By: pivero</title>
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		<dc:creator>pivero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a very interesting drink indeed.... It still retained some of the personality of the Porter, but it was a completely different creature.
I wonder what that could acheive with some kvasnicové, or nefiltrované....... Or as Al said during the tasting, using the dregs of other trappists or similar....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a very interesting drink indeed&#8230;. It still retained some of the personality of the Porter, but it was a completely different creature.<br />
I wonder what that could acheive with some kvasnicové, or nefiltrované&#8230;&#8230;. Or as Al said during the tasting, using the dregs of other trappists or similar&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pivnizub</title>
		<link>http://www.beerculture.org/2009/02/19/beer-hacking-pardubicky-porter-vs-orval-tasted-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>pivnizub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good idea !  I&#039;would do the same as soon I can get a bottle of Pardubitzer Porter...... Last year I&#039;ve filled up a bottle (1000 ml) of Schumacher Alt with freshly pressed raspberry juice and stored it in the refrigerator. I didn&#039;t dare &#039;till today to open it, but I&#039;m very curious... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good idea !  I&#8217;would do the same as soon I can get a bottle of Pardubitzer Porter&#8230;&#8230; Last year I&#8217;ve filled up a bottle (1000 ml) of Schumacher Alt with freshly pressed raspberry juice and stored it in the refrigerator. I didn&#8217;t dare &#8217;till today to open it, but I&#8217;m very curious&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Velky Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velky Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am playing with the idea of using some brett to secondary condition a couple of bottles of my homebrew when it is ready, that would make it a sour smoked Scottish mild ale - I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am playing with the idea of using some brett to secondary condition a couple of bottles of my homebrew when it is ready, that would make it a sour smoked Scottish mild ale &#8211; I think.</p>
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